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Post by rollersk8r on Apr 18, 2007 7:43:57 GMT 1
For everyone interested in Roller Figure Skating, here you can ask anything you always wanted to know about the other side of the figure skating. A few tips for you to get to know the discipline better: - First of all, Figure Skating (figures) is still a competitive discipline at Roller skating, not like on ice that they take it of of the competitions. So at the World championship the athletes may compete in Free Skating, Figures, and Combined. If you skate in free and in figures, you get a calification for combined. - Roller Skating World Championships has been done for 51 years until now. - A new discipline is called In- Line, it has 5 years doing this, the skates are similar to the street skates (wheels in line) buth the boot is the ordinary for figure skating. - Equipment. .Boots, exactly the same. Althought Risport has made the RFR boots, that are speccially made for Roller Skating, just for making money with something that's the same with a diferent name. .Frames, the main diference with ice. Instead of blades, we have frames, that is where we put the wheels. .Toe Stop, which in ice are the toe picks (also called "toe rakes"), -thanks Wikipedia- that in Roller are made of rubber of different hardness. .Wheels, of course, 8. Few Links:Tanja Romano in Murcia 2006. LPTanja Romano in Murcia 2006, SP*Well Tanja is like Federer in Roller skating, but this last world championship was nothing good for her, still won. Free and combined. I have to admit I saw her very very nervious. Laura sanchez is the other girl that follow her very close. Laura did an exellent official and unofficial practice, and Tanja get very nervious about this. Still, Tanja won although her own mistakes. Luca D'Alisera in Murcia 2006. LPLuca D'Alisera in Murcia 2006. SP*Luca is the best world champion ever! Also he's really *This is really hard to explain by words... Daniel Arriola is a real artist. The main difference between ice and roller for me is Daniel. I've never seen so much interpretation on ice, and is hardly comparable with any of roller too. If you look the program carefully, he never stops the interpretation, he's entering a spin and he's acting, his mind is on the skin of the caracter. As Jayson Sutcliffe (world roller champ 1995 and first preacher of the sport) call it "Artistry of Arriola". Daniel Arriola in Murcia 2006. LPDidn't have any luck on youtube for the Dance Hope you like the vids. I got more interesting vids and of course, all the dance. When I can upload it I'll post it here. Thanks Kyrie for the idea...
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Post by nisha on Apr 18, 2007 13:29:46 GMT 1
This is so interesting! Thanks for the insight. Too bad there aren't any Dance vids uploaded, that could have been really cool. How long have you been doing this sport already, roller?
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Post by rollersk8r on Apr 19, 2007 3:31:03 GMT 1
I've been skating for 7 years
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Post by kyrie on Apr 19, 2007 8:43:08 GMT 1
Thank you for the thread, roller! What is the surface they skate on called? And what is it made from? I'm fascinated just how much roller s. looks like ice s. ;D I liked Tanja's SP more than LP. She seems very emotional. Luca. Oh Luca. He had me at beginning of his music. Can you give me some background for both of his programs? I really like Daniel too. You are right, his presentational skills are just amazing.
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Post by rollersk8r on Apr 20, 2007 0:45:53 GMT 1
We skated on a regular floor, made of material or wood, just the floor of any livingroom.
Yes roller in the same as ice, the same jumps, almost the same spins, well in fact we can do all the same spins, but there's differents marks by making some and others not, for example sit or step up spins get's less points than camel spins, and the inverted camel, broken camel or heel camel are the ones that get's more points.
At the end of the SP Tanja, dedicates to her mother that was at the crowd, and then to all the Italian team that were at the other side, she point at her mother first and then to the Italian bench
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Post by kyrie on Apr 20, 2007 0:53:55 GMT 1
But the floor looks so....shiny! I asked because at the first moment I thought it was ice. *laughs at herself*
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Post by rollersk8r on Apr 20, 2007 3:06:21 GMT 1
I've done some research: Steps: 1) 15 mm of self leveler concrete 2) Laser polish 3) finished of resin 4) White painting www.fep.esAt the begin organization thought about putting a new wooden floor over the concrete that was already at the 'Palacio de los Deportes' stadium, that would have cost 12000€. After seeing a lot of differents clases of wood for floor and look for the rigth kind of wood; they thought about the posibility of changing the concrete floor that already was at the stadium becasue that didn't have the correct plane surveying for the world championship. This means that they have to takle out the floor and do it again; this was the option they took for the correct floor for the worlds. [] The final cost for the 'Palacio de los Deportes' was 58000 €.
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Post by kyrie on Apr 20, 2007 8:57:05 GMT 1
Thank you for explaining! I can't read Spanish that well. BTW - are you also competing or do you skate mostly for fun?
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Post by rollersk8r on Apr 21, 2007 5:25:24 GMT 1
Yes, I'm competing. Free skating and in a syncro team.
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Post by kyrie on Apr 21, 2007 9:15:47 GMT 1
Oh, great! So...is there any vids of *you* on youtube? ;D
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Post by rollersk8r on Apr 22, 2007 1:01:08 GMT 1
No there isn't, because nobody film me never
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Post by kyrie on Apr 22, 2007 1:06:00 GMT 1
Aaaaaw Maybe one of your friends could record you...even with home video camera?
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Post by rollersk8r on Apr 22, 2007 7:16:30 GMT 1
Yes, some of my friends goes to the competitions with their parents, and usually they take a video cam, so I'll ask them in advance if someone can record me!! ;D You always have exellents ideas Ky!!
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Post by buczy on Apr 22, 2007 15:07:30 GMT 1
Yes, yes.... please ask one of them and then put it on youtube, so everyone of us can see u. After reading it i became very interested lol. Btw, it must be a very stupid question , but it seems to me that roller skating absolutely the same just on floor. So maybe u put iceskating on u can do this stuffs on ice as well ( ok after a bit when u accustomed to the ice)? And conversely also: an ice skater can do the elements on rollerskate as well, or it is more complecated than to transfer it directly? So thats my question lol.
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Post by rollersk8r on Apr 24, 2007 6:37:26 GMT 1
Yes, roller is exactly the same as ice, so once you are accustom to the surface is the same. Same jumps, same spins (different code of points) but the same elements. A difference is that in a loop we have the posibility of a variation. As we have the toe stop and the wheels separatelly (ice skates have the toe picks together with the blade) we can do the loop by leaping from the toe stop as in ice from the toe picks; or do it just leaping from the wheels (harder and gives more marks). Of course there's differents opinions, a friend from the skating club couldn't do anymore that make a step or two on ice. But for the majority of people is way more easy the transition form roller to ice. As me, I've tried twice times to do ice skating and for me is way more easy that roller. After 30 minutes was doing the same things I do on roller and some others I have done better on ice that on roller. The contrary case occurs the other way. An ice skater finds more difficult to jump; and extremelly or almost impossible to do a spin on roller. That is the case of Brian Joubert that by simply making a waltz jump got a big applause from the audience. He looks very funny trying that. Think that was at some National French Championship. (if I do only this in a competition people will start booing me, and Brian only for being him got a big applause )
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